A conversation about the way in which all kinds of (fine) artists, often established names in the art world, are making films. Cindy Sherman's début (Office Killer) was the most recent in a series of more or less mainstream films, but artists such as Steve McQueen use the medium in a very different way. Among those present are the British fine artist Steve McQueen (see Deadpan), Kerry Brougher, e.g. curator of the exhibition Art and Film in the MOCA in Los Angeles and Sharon Lockhardt (see Goshogaoka).